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Does BG by George cheat?

From:   George Sutty
Date:   6 November 1995
Subject:   Re: Geoge Sutty
Google:   47kcfu$

> I downloaded a Backgammon game from the Winfun forum that appears
> to cheat (many doubles when bearing off & unlikely hits).  Does
> anybody here know this program?


> What a strange coincidence.  I have played with this program,
> and thought I was being paranoid -- until the last couple of days.
> Yesterday, the program rolled two *consecutive* double 6's when it
> was way behind during a bearoff.  Today, it *again* rolled consecutive
> double 6's during even more suspicious circumstances: four men
> trapped on the 24 point behind a 5-prime.
> The program also has a habit of making dubious doubles followed
> by perfect rolls (usually doubles).  Of course you'd expect this
> to happen on occasion -- and psychologically, you'd tend to remember
> such painful sequences -- but this program seems to pull *the*
> critical roll out of the air with disconcerting frequency.  "Well,
> gee, he really can't do much damage unless he rolls double 4's ...
> whaddya know, double 4's."
> The funny part is that the program is so mediocre that it's pretty
> easy to trounce in spite of its apparent cheating.

Yes, it is mediocre player, but no, it does not cheat.  It uses MS
random number generator to get the rolls.  If you are not happy with
those numbers, use the Options menu to roll you own dice.  Besides,
considering the price you paid for this program you should not complain
about its level of play .... <gr> :-)

(Author of BG by George)
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