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> The phrase "there's slime vig here" occurred recently in an article.
> What would "slime vig" be?"
>
> My dictionary says that it is probably from the Yiddish from Russian
> vyigrysh (winnings or profit) and is 1. a charge taken (as by a bookie or
> a gambling house) on bets or 2. interest paid to a money lender.
I posted "slime vig" in an article. It's an expression used in Boston for
a very important aspect of evaluating backgammon positions.
Vigorish in general refers to the extra edge held by a person on one side
of a position. This extra edge by its nature is based on various factors
which may vary depending on the position or the players, or both. It's
a residual which is left after we subtract what is calculable by explicit
mathematics from the true volatility in a game.
Often vigorish refers to skill-related equity, such as the added value of
a position when the cube holder is an expert versus an intermediate, or
the likelihood that a player will drop a cube they should be taking.
Slime vig refers to a sum of various low-probability parleys which together
can make the difference between a valid take and a close drop. A parley
of this type is called "slimy" because achieving it makes it appear as if
you were cheating with the dice.
A classic case of slime vig is where one is dancing against a five point
board, and then comes in and hits a distant blot. If a board holder has
many men not yet borne in, then the chance of a lucky roll in one of a
long series of rolls can be very substantial. It's not psychologically
likely, but probability and psychology are two different things.
--
Toni Wuersch
arw@world.std.com {uunet,bu.edu,bloom-beacon}!world!arw
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Terminology
- Alphabet soup (Tom Keith, Apr 2004)
- "Anchor and guard" position (Chase+, Apr 2010)
- "Back game" (Marty Storer, Jan 2004)
- "Baffle box" (garyo+, Mar 2005)
- "Bagai position" (Timothy Chow, Dec 2012)
- "Banana split" (Rich Munitz+, June 2011)
- "Banana split" (Adam Stocks+, Sept 2004)
- "Beavers" (Sander van Rijnswou, May 1999)
- "Beavers" (Shuman Lloyd Lee, Aug 1991)
- "Blunder", "whopper" (Raccoon+, July 2005)
- "Bot" (Pit Bull+, Mar 2004)
- "Bronstein" clock setting (rew+, Sept 2012)
- "Calcutta auction" (Roland Scheicher+, Dec 2001)
- "Chouette" (Roland Scheicher+, Mar 2002)
- "Cube provocation play" (Chuck Bower+, Apr 2007)
- "Dance" (William R. Tallmadge, May 1998)
- "Dropper" (Robert D. Johnson, Sept 1996)
- "Duplication" and "diversification" (Simon Woodhead, Nov 1991)
- "Equity" (Gregg Cattanach, Aug 2000)
- "Equity" (Gary Wong, Dec 1998)
- "Equity" (Chuck Bower, Oct 1996)
- "Equity" (Michael J. Zehr, Mar 1996)
- "Equity", "volatility", "claim", "market" (Erik Gravgaard, June 1995)
- "Freeroll" (montygram, Nov 2005)
- "Gammon price" (Ron Karr, Aug 1996)
- "Gammon rate", "gammon price" (David Montgomery, June 1995)
- "Gammon-go" (GG) and "gammon-save" (GS) (Mary Hickey, Feb 2004)
- "Gammon-go" (GG) and "gammon-save" (GS) (Marty Storer, Oct 2002)
- "Gammon-go" (GG) (Chuck Bower, Jan 2004)
- "Golden point" (Daniel Murphy, Dec 2004)
- "Holding game" (Alan Webb+, Dec 1998)
- "In the box" (Ken Bame+, Sept 2012)
- International phrase dictionary (David Allen Sorensen, Sept 1997)
- "Joker" (Richard Divdesman, Sept 1998)
- "Kamikaze play" (Bill Patterson+, June 2011)
- "Kauder paradox" (Carl Tait+, Nov 1995)
- "Latto paradox" (Jean-Pierre Seiman+, July 2004)
- "Lose your market" (Shuman Lloyd Lee+, Aug 1991)
- "MCV" (Mislav Radica+, Oct 2009)
- "PRaT" (Raccoon+, Jan 2007)
- "Phantom double hit" (Marty Storer, May 2010)
- "Polish prime" (Jason Lee+, Jan 2006)
- "Pure play" (Daniel Murphy, Nov 2000)
- "Pure play" (Casey Forrest+, Feb 1996)
- "Raccoon" (Steven Keats, Feb 2011)
- "Root number" (Ken Bame, June 2004)
- "Russian Bridges" (leobueno+, Mar 2013)
- "Short play" (AJ+, July 2012)
- "Speed board" (Gregg Cattanach, June 2004)
- "Splot" (mamabear, Apr 2007)
- "Squeeze", "trap play" (Philippe Michel+, Feb 1997)
- "Suicide play" (Brian Sheppard, Aug 1997)
- "Swing tournament" (Carlo Melzi+, Mar 2006)
- "Table stakes" (Carlo Melzi, Sept 2002)
- "Technical play" (Adam Stocks+, July 2002)
- "Thematic" (Beauregard+, Aug 2009)
- "Thorp count" (Stephen Turner, June 1996)
- "Time," "timing," "checker," "dancing" (Marty Storer, Apr 1992)
- Turkish names for rolls (Lars Soezueer, Mar 1997)
- "Vigorish" (Anthony R Wuersch, Feb 1995)
- "Volatility" (Michael J. Zehr, June 1998)
- "Wash" (Hardy Hübener+, Sept 2004)
- "Wash" (Brian Sheppard, July 1997)
- "Weaver" (Alan Webb+, May 2000)
- "Zone" of attack (Matt Reklaitis+, Dec 2007)
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