Forum Archive : Chouettes


From:   Anthony R Wuersch
Date:   13 March 1995
Subject:   Re: chouette extras question

> Under what circumstances are extras offered?
> How much do extras cost and to whom do the monies go?
> How many people can offer extras?
> Could one person offer advice on whether or not another should offer
> extras?  Why would I offer an extra?

Extras happen on cube turns where someone takes and others drop.  Each
extra pits a taker against a dropper.  The dropper is said to 'give an
extra' to the taker.   The dropper pays the taker one unit.  The taker
plays with and holds an 'extra' cube set at two units.  The extra giver
decides if doubles for that extra cube should be taken or not.

Accounting is usually done by an additional line on the chouette sheet ---
i.e., the drop is logged when it happens, and the result of the extra is
logged afterwards.

Consulting rules differ for extras from regular cubes.  Usually the person
giving an extra is not allowed to consult with the doubler until he or she
accepts a redouble from the taker.  This is to ensure that the taker(s) can
still play against the doubler as if the extra had not happened.

'Forced' extras to achieve a majority of cubes can be a chouette rule.  It
goes so:  if all cubes are turned at once, either a majority of cubes must
be taken or all cubes must be dropped.  If a majority of cubes is not
taken, then the game may continue only if all extras offered are taken
until either
  a) the total of cubes and extras taken is a majority, or
  b) no more extras are offered.

If multiple extras are offered and taking extras is forced, some chouette
rules impose the restriction that extras must be taken in the order of who
plays next to who plays last --- so the taker can't pick and choose who to
take an extra from.

Anyone can offer an extra --- even players not in the chouette.  However,
if a player is not in the chouette, it's reasonable to forbid that player
from consulting even after redoubles.  One also often forces this outside
player to let the doubler handle his or her cube, i.e., to retake.

The outside player is also accounted for separately from the other players.
Essentially, the outside player is taking a side in a proposition where the
doubler is playing his or her side on his or her behalf.

It's often reasonable to offer an extra if one is the only one who dropped.
The issue is your faith in the position and in the player who doubled that

Advice on taking or offering extras is probably illegal.  It's similar to
advice on whether to take or offer a double.

toni on FIBS
Toni Wuersch   {uunet,,bloom-beacon}!world!arw
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